report : [Paladin] Paladin healing

pasted wrong link, here's correct one:
http://imgur.com/a/Vf2Y1

You forgot the mod healing on the Seal of Insight : "increasing healing done by 5%".
Sacred shield is not a heal so it isn't affect by Holy insight.
Avenging wrath increase healing by 100% if you don't have a glyph.

Did you have the Beacon of life on yourself on your tests? If it's the case, it's another 10% mod healing.

1. Ye, forgot seal. That means Holy Shock is not bugged, rest still heals for way too much.
2. I didn't count sacred shield with holy insight, just look that i used spell power in formula, not spell power * versa * insight
3. I said i use glyph, so i don't see your point.
4. I had no beacon. You can see in buffs that there isn't beacon buff on me.

Ah, made mistake in name of glyph, Merciful Wrath, not Avenging Wrath (which is a talent)

Infusion of light is buged. Its not 100% proc.
Also in SS you are not showing what glyphs you are using. If you are not using glyph of mercfuli wrath, then healing is increased by 100% and crit chanse too. Also as Raven said if you had seal of insight thats another 5% healing. Also how can we be sure you didnt use buff Beacon of insight that inscrease your healing for 40%
Look at retail how is hpala healing: https://youtu.be/GnFL4Nxf-Ug

Infusion of light is 100%, IF YOU CRIT. As it should be.
Beacon increases by 10%, not 40%.
Crit has nothing to do with raw healing.
Anyone can test healing if they don't believe i had no glyph of merciful wrath, which you can't prove that someone is using it or not in screenshots, as it can always be changed after casting spells.

So, stop being stupid please, I have no reason to lie, while you other hand have, and it's in your nature to do so, as you've already done that :) You want your already OP class to be even more OP. If I were wrong, you wouldn't close your thread immidiately :)

Wanna talk about video? I see at beginning hpal doing 38000 holy light.
Full s2 conquest gear, as it's end of season, and they have ~430k hp, so 730ilvl gear. Right now on our server, with 711ilvl, i have 7000 spell power unbuffed. How much do you have as 730ilvl? 8000? Lets say 8000.

Now, to 8000 spell power lets add 5% intelect + 10% spell power. Weapon gives ~2.5k spell power, so 5.5k intelect unbuffed.
(5500*1.05 + 2500) * 1.1 = 9100

Pala stack versa http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/Cavyxbanter/simple 710ilvl (because not scaled in armory) has 15%. So lets say, 20% versa in pvp? (probably more)
Now lets add beacon and passives.
9100 * 1.25 * 1.2 * 1.1 * 2.4 = 36000. Close enough

"Places a beacon of insight on a party or raid member, increasing their healing received from your next direct single-target heal, or Holy Radiance, within 1 min by 40%" -I dont see 10% here :/

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53576/infusion-of-light and why I never get proc when I use it ? I get sometimes only when i full brust like 1 of 5 times. So its not 100%

Hpala op class? Nice joke. Now go test MW Monks and disc priest hpala is 0 compared to them...Also I wont talk about dps classes such as rogue, hunter, mage,etc... Go make test and bug report for them too :)

I will make u video if u want for infusion of light that I almost never got it even whe i brast or norm...

Maybe its some faction horde-ally bugs.

My holy paladin 620 ilvl cam heal with crit for over 700 k with procs and cds. Wtf ? Averging wrath + something is overbugging it

No avenging wrath, compare, trolls.

https://youtu.be/PCfH9hMtBsk
pell power * versa * holy insight passive * seal
3380 * 1.0342 * 1.25* 1.05 = 4587

Holy shock: 4587 * 1.4 = 6422
Flash of light: 4587 * 2.4 = 11010
Holy light: 4587 * 2.4 = 11010
Sacred shield: 3380 * 1.306 = 4565
Flash of light (infusion of light) 11010 * 1.5 = 16515
Execution sentence total healing: 4587 * 27,09 * 0,594 = 73818

Healing on server: http://imgur.com/a/8IvKe
Holy Shock: 6422 - 1100% correct value
Flash of light: 13765 - too high, 125%
Holy light: 13764 - too high, 125%
Sacred shield: 3479 - too low, 76%
Execution sentence total healing: 93782 - too high, 127%
Flash of light (infusion of light): 20647 - too high, 125% of correct value



With avenging wrath (merciful wrath):
Holy shock: 6422 * 1.5 = 9633
Flash of light: 11010 * 1.5 = 16515
Holy light: 11010 * 1.5 = 16515
Flash of light (infusion of light) 11010 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 24773
Execution sentence: 73818 * 1.5 = 110727

With avenging wrath (merciful wrath) - healing on server: https://youtu.be/y6u20eFkZuA
Holy shock: 11559 - too high, 120% of correct value
Flash of light: 24776 - too high, 150%
Holy light: 24776 - too high, 150%
Execution sentence total healing: 303871- too high, 274% :)
Flash of light (infusion of light): 37164 - too high, 150% of correct value

1. Execution sentence formula is way too incorrect.
2. Avenging wrath with glyph works twice, increasing healing by 50% and then again by 50%, so total healing is 225%, not 150%
3. Flash of light/holy light has incorrect formula. Holy insight might be added twice for them, as the diffrence is 25%.
4. Infusion of light works in 100%. You get critical strike with shock = you get infusion of light proc.

Now shut up palaknight, don't waste my time anymore. Expect major nerf in near future.

Go on test realm if you dont have priest or monk. Test their healing and you will see how much they are buged. Hpala is 0 compared to MW Monk or Disc Priest! Just look at their healing. Make bug reports for them. Dont qq poor paladins.

Netrakan , can you do the same thing with disci priest plz , need to be nerfed asap and no dev give a sh*t .

For Holy Light you use a wrong formula., it's 300%*Spell_power. This spell seems ok.
Versa increases absorbs ( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/14322443/dev-watercooler-stat-updates-for-warlords-of-draenor-6-4-2014 : 1% "Versatility grants a 1% increase to your damage, healing, and absorbs" )

Can you test without the glyph merciful wrath ? It's possible the glyph have some issues.

For Flash of Light and Execution Sentence (Stay of Execution), if you watch the list of effects on wowhead, the bonus is applied two times.
- Effect 6 and 11 for Flash of Light
- Effect 6 and 7 for Stay of Execution.
Unfortunatly I don't know if it's a hidden bonus on a hidden passive, or a problem on Wowhead.

Ye, you're right about Holy Light. They both heal in game the same, so i assumed they are supposed to have same formula. That would explain flash healing. Flash Healing has Holy Light's healing formula, as i seriously doubt it should be affected twice by a passive. You can see there that Word of Glory is affected by effect #12 three times, prolly just some older builds, or something.

http://imgur.com/7jrezoW - without glyph.
flash of light/holy light - 33k, while without wrath does 10,5k. --- wrath buffing it for by 200%, instead of buffing by 100%
Shock - 30800 crit = 15400 non crit, while without wrath does 6.4k --- should be 12800 not 15400. - also incorrect
Execution sentence - 251k initial healing, while without wrath does 44k --- should be 88k initial, so yeah, wrath buffing it by 600% gl with that.

So:
Flash of light: issues --- has 300% spell power formula instead of 240%
Holy Light: correct
Shock: issues
Execution sentence: bugged as hell

Tested now on retri, and it's bugged in same way. So the issue in general (both retri and holy spec):
1. Execution Sentence: Healing formula is incorrect (without avenging wrath) by 25%
2. Avenging wrath: bugged as hell. It mixes buffs from both specs.
a) For holy:
--- Avenging Wrath works like a mix of retri and holy: Increases healing by 100% (or 50% glyphed), increases Crit chance by 10%, increases your current haste chance by 20%(10% if glyphed) [if you have 10%, increases it to 12%(11%)] AND THEN adds 20% (10%) chance. So, from 10% you get 32% (21%). Then, no matter if you have glyph or not, increases all damage done by 20%, while with glyph should increase only by 10% (gets bonus from retri), AND THEN increases all healing again by 20% (again, bonus from retri)

Watch holy light: on server, with avenging wrath (glyph) heals for 24776.
4587 * 3 = 13761
13761 * 1.5 (avenging wrath glyphed) = 20641.
20641 * 1.2 = 24769. Here, bugged as fuck. Applies to all spells.

--- Execution Sentence: Avenging Wrath does god knows what with it. It affects execution so many times that I've lost count.

b) For retri:
Avenging wrath increases healing by 50% and damage by 20%, while should increase both by 20%. http://imgur.com/Sk6dRrn

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status alterado de novo report para Report confirmado

Yeah well, still not fixed

Up you go,good job!

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Well I tried heals with the same exact gear as on retail and heals for rets are exactly the same. Except Execution Sentence with Avenging Wrath, it heals 5% more than it should.

@Netrakan
"Watch holy light: on server, with avenging wrath (glyph) heals for 24776.
4587 * 3 = 13761
13761 * 1.5 (avenging wrath glyphed) = 20641.
20641 * 1.2 = 24769. Here, bugged as fuck. Applies to all spells."

have you talant http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53376/sanctified-wrath?

If have: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=114232/sanctified-wrath
Apply Aura: Mod Healing Taken - % (Arcane, Fire, Frost, Holy, Nature, Physical, Shadow)
Value: 20%

I will redo the maths for these spells if I see anyone complaining about their vale. Until then, I consider the issue solved, since this ticket is almost one year old.