Realm: Dornogal
Character (name, faction, level...): Balor, Alliance, 80
Patron Orders for professions are completely broken.
1. There is too little of orders, and they do not stack.
2. Orders are sent for unlearned recipes.
3. There is no rare materials provided for orders.
Because of all of this, it is almost impossible to level up your profession knowlege. What's worse, is what you sell professions for donate, which killed business for honest crafters.
Please read, how this all should work - https://www.wowhead.com/guide/professions/patron-work-orders
Patron Orders should grant a 15 knowlege points per week, so you need to make a refund of 30 points for the last 2 weeks.
i Completly agree and there is even items that should give knowledge points who dont so frustrating
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It's 45 missed knowlege points for now.
not even 1 order today
got the same issue no patron order
According to https://www.wowhead.com/guide/professions/patron-work-orders:
"Of note are various Knowledge Point Glimmers and Flickers, such as Glimmer of Jewelcrafting Knowledge Glimmer of Jewelcrafting Knowledge and Flicker of Tailoring Knowledge Flicker of Tailoring Knowledge, which can grant a total of 15 Knowledge Points per week for each Profession"
So, today is 5th week of TWW, and patron orders are still not work correctly. Of course, it's impossible to compensate for the gold losses suffered by honest crafters due to this bug. We simply cannot compete with donators who receive 23 knowledge points every week, while we only receive 3.
But at least, the 60 Knowledge Points that was weren't earned by players should be compensated.
That would be fair.
Last week was only 5 patron orders, and only one for known recipe. So now it's 75 knowledge points missed. So sad.
Also, some recipes required a lot of expensive materials, while Patrons should provide them, if i remember correctly.
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And all patron orders, including those without expensive materials provided and those for a recipes i don't know, just disappeared.
Oh yes. and now it's 90 knowlege points missed, new week yes.
We need refund...
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105 missed knowlege this week.
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bug still present :))
Please, fix it .... I get only 3points weekly (quest+book).... Need to fix patrons orders
https://www.wow-professions.com/guides/the-war-within/weekly-profession-knowledge-points
Thank you very much, for this useful info.
It seems, we do not have any "Treasure drops" from various chests it a game. At least, as a Blacksmith, i did not get any.
Also, according to this table, as a Blacksmith - i should have received 24 knowlege from patron orders. It was 8 weeks, so i'm missed 192 knowlege, and also additional 16 from this treasures, for total of 208 knowlege! And also 208x5 = 1040 Artisan Acuity!
This is just outrages.
And they say "no refund" - https://forum.firestorm-servers.com/us/index.php?/topic/55357-patron-orders
Is it faire, how do you think?
up, and alchemy 0 Patron Crafting Orders....always
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Some additional info regarding materials provided - https://www.wowhead.com/news/patron-work-order-changes-higher-reagent-chance-removed-work-orders-346872
According to this notes, chance of providing materials was significantly increased. Chance for each component provided should be calculated independently.
I recently received an order that didn't include any materials other than spark. Which should be statistically impossible.
Also, there is no Weekly Treasure drops from random chests, for Blacksmithing (idk about other professions):
https://www.wow-professions.com/guides/the-war-within/weekly-profession-knowledge-points
https://www.wowhead.com/item=225232/coreway-billet and https://www.wowhead.com/item=225233/dense-bladestone should drop to players with BS, from various chests, like https://www.wowhead.com/object=452696/machine-speakers-reliquary or https://www.wowhead.com/object=444798/arathi-treasure-hoard found in Ringing Deeps, or Hallowfall, by rate of 2 per week, for EVERY week from the start of the TWW. So if you did not gather them from the beginning, the game shoud compensate them for you.
And there should be a Knowledge Point Catch-up system:
Crafters should get extra Knowledge Points from Patron Crafting Orders. Each day, they should receive three catch-up Crafting Orders, with each one rewarding +1 Knowledge from Flicker of (profession) Knowledge, for up to an extra +3 Knowledge per day.
looks like the issue solved
idk about other profs, but alchemy recieved right now 4 orders with 4 point knowledge points each. completed all
thanks! will be monitoring other profs
not resolved!
currently only additional Cath-up Orders that reward "flicker of knowledge" (like: https://www.wowhead.com/item=228738 )
no Patron Orders that reward "glimmer of knowledge" (like: https://www.wowhead.com/item=228739 )
right now with blacksmithing i have only 3 patron orders and it's 3 recipes i dont have for over a week now..
Also still no drop of https://www.wowhead.com/item=225232/coreway-billet and https://www.wowhead.com/item=225233/dense-bladestone for BS.
don't know about you guys, but my jewelcrafting is next to impossible to improve, with few patron orders and most of them have recipes i can't unlock because of the knowledge
And also, all of my patron orders rewards Flicker of Knowledge (1 point) instead of Glimmer of Knowledge (2 points).
any progress on this?
@firas001155 , fixed pair weeks ago , patron orders systemic comes, by time
at least to inscription, alchemy, blacksmithing, tailoring, enchanting , jewelery
@Gothus, u don't know how this is supposed to work.
I'll repeat:
currently only additional Cath-up Orders that reward "flicker of knowledge" (like: https://www.wowhead.com/item=228738 )
no Patron Orders that reward "glimmer of knowledge" (like: https://www.wowhead.com/item=228739 )
look https://postimg.cc/r0sxM5MV same thing everyday
my specialty - alloys, I can't fulfill any orders, i get 2 konowledges a week from weekly quest
Lol didn't see this threath b4. I'm leveling up every profession and yes, this is still an issue.
In my case, with enchanting, I keep having 0 patron orders during 4-5 days straight, almost every week. Besides, the knowledge point catch-up system doesn't seem to work properly, one day I get 1 or 2 of those orbs that give you 2 knowledge points, then I won't see any more of those till 3 weeks later; and they only appear with some profs.
Furthermore, I don't know if it's true that you should get only orders for recipes you know, but if that's the case, then i'm always getting patron orders for recipes I haven't learnet yet, especially pvp ones.
And there's another thing that has been bothering me lately, yet I'm not sure if it's a bug or an intended behaviour: When I log into the game with an alt for the first time each day and check the patron orders, every new one I see has the maximum possible amount of time remaining (24 hours for most of the orders). If I don't complete them and log in some hours later, then those orders will have less time remaining. But I never find, for example, a patron order with 6 hours remaining that I hadn't seen before. So it could potencially slow down the rate at which patron orders are appearing, since they won't appear till you log in with your char, so the next batch will also be delayed, and so on.
Aside from the issues with patron orders, it's also true that knowledge points are not droping at all from random chests.
Well, according to https://www.wow-professions.com/guides/the-war-within/weekly-profession-knowledge-points Enchanters should receive Knowlege by simply disenchanting items. They should receive Patron Orders too, but with reward in Artisan's Acuity, bags with materials and so on.
im still getting the same 2-4 ones on blacksmithing for almost a whole week with only the pvp recipes i dont have.