report : [Hunter][Survival] Damage

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Titre : [Hunter][Survival] Damage
Statut : 7
Date de création : 28 March 2016
Dernière modification : 16 June 2016 00:08:41
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catégorie : Classes
sous-catégorie : Chasseur
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priorité : haute
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[Hunter][Survival] Damage
28 March 2016 12:51:11

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=3674/black-arrow Black arrow: Versa, Mastery, AP, http://www.wowhead.com/spell=63458/trap-mastery
tick = 0.567 * 1.0708 * 1.1711 * 3245 * 1.3 = 2999. Does 4010.
http://imgur.com/pH1eg76

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=53301/explosive-shot explosive shot: versa, mastery, ap.
tick = 0.47 * 1.0708 * 1.1711 * 3245 = 1912. Does 2810 (initial) and 3008 (tick). Tick and initial should be equal btw. Effects should stack on cast, but i see that is already reported.
http://imgur.com/tSeRKJo

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=87935/serpent-sting Serpent sting: versa, mastery, AP.
tick = 0.725 * 1.0708 * 1.1711 * 3245 = 2950. Does 3943.
http://imgur.com/4FobRY3

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=117050/glaive-toss Too low damage, but already reported by someone so won't expand it further here.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
28 March 2016 12:52:43

I had no lone wolf btw, you can see on frozen ammo in combat log.

Littlekath
[Hunter][Survival] Damage
28 March 2016 16:53:26

like

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
29 March 2016 11:48:27

Damm u u beat me to it.... i was testing this on retail ....

theres also the http://www.wowhead.com/spell=168980/lock-and-load proc chance taht atm procs like crazy (reporting that atm)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
29 March 2016 11:48:37

statut changé de nouveau report à report confirmé

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
5 April 2016 21:44:18

up

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
6 April 2016 10:38:38

Best report I've ever seen. Thank you, atm survival hunters are almost game-breaking.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
7 April 2016 11:07:54

This is already reported for 10 days, while bug is just in formula. Should be easy enough to fix it quickly. I get that GMs and admins play hunters, but cmon

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
7 April 2016 12:33:17

Ok,a mage crying from hunters.....interesting how you havent made formula check for your frost spec dmg wich is kinda retarded as aff locks or boomies,80k+ice nova crits are normal for you it seems....but lets continue whining about sv hunters wich crit max 10-12k whit shots..

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
7 April 2016 12:58:14

Then go ahead, make a thread, test mage. Im not making it because i know damage is correct. But, you are free to test it :)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
7 April 2016 13:23:51

mhm correct,whit season 3 gear and legendary rings perhaps,but you wont test is since you are mage and you can simply enjoy the dmg ;)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
7 April 2016 13:47:01

Lol... If you think it's not, go ahead, you can test and report it too. I dare you.

Littlekath
[Hunter][Survival] Damage
7 April 2016 18:23:37

sv hunters are making like 20% more damage than in official, thats for sure..

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
9 April 2016 23:34:44

up

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
10 April 2016 12:54:06

Tested on retail and naked damage is very similar... i guess it might be mastery or multistrike the problem....

Or .... need to look into it again!

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
10 April 2016 21:02:39

I want all the uses abserben 3245 Attack Power for the calculation but I have 4660 Attack Power and I have much more .

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
10 April 2016 21:22:13

I want all observe that the 3245 uses Attack Power for the calculation but I have 4660 ( 6200 in pvp ) Attack Power and I'll have more.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
11 April 2016 22:19:24

I hope this report didn't get forgotten
UP UP

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
12 April 2016 00:28:39

what report....down down

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
12 April 2016 14:41:52

ppl who can't dispell black arrow are crying lmao.. when Im healing in 2s vs hunters they do literally 0 dmg, I stay full with only rej and germination hots... better make a thread about hunter traps range when they are played, if u dont hit it on point they are useless..seems a bit too big difference from what ive seen on streams and videos so far

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
12 April 2016 14:42:33

when they are placed*

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
12 April 2016 15:18:08

Lol shut up hunter

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
12 April 2016 21:41:36

UP UP

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 00:15:58

Lol spamming "up up" won't help fixing the thing only flooding the report with useless shit

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 09:28:22

Leaving it to be forgotten won't help it either. Shut up and let us flood it with useless shit, you can go home.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 09:48:06

haha "up" despair

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 11:04:22

Don't think you're the person who can tell me where I should go and whether I should shut up or not :P And as you can see spamming the report doesn't help at all ;)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 15:03:28

so much mad kids around here, i dont even play my hunter that much, doesnt matter that im a hunter, i dont give a slightest shit if it gets nerfed...i just wanna point out the placed trap range isnt what it should be tbh

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 15:20:42

all geeks who were using bm with "50k+ kill" are now using sv, why? because its damage is the same shit plus they reduce healing by 25%, if sv its fixed lets see who will stay playin that noob spaming class ;)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 15:40:09

UP UP Fix the shit or Delete server.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 17:39:50

Up up les enfants qui dislike go script cette classe d'handistar.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 18:33:08

Why are you butthurt if it doesn't help at all. Just ignore it in that case..
I'd rather spam up than leave such a critical bug not noticed.
UP UP UP

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 18:46:27

"i just wanna point out the placed trap range isnt what it should be tbh" you're right, 15 yards radius.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 21:09:53

You don't even take into account the problem of 25% damage reduction on dummies (see https://firestorm-servers.com/fr/report/see_report/5641 ).
Now I understand why they hurt so much in pvp ;)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 22:19:28

Ravenswrath: Just tested it, there is no such issue, atleast not on horde dummies. Dummies have correct 35% armor, no other reductions. It's either ally's dummies issue, or he made some mistakes in calculations.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 23:06:38

after all this crap only thing u have is a test where u show 3k dot ticks on a doll and ur saying the numbers are wrong. pls tell me for how much should hunters hit full geared players? for 2k crits? and 50% of hunters dmg can literally be negated with a simple dispell? yea buddy, like that will ever happen. U r trying to find "needle in a haystack" while mages taking 1/3 hp of with a root, for example.. kids dont take me serious when they realise im playing a hunter, but im trying to be objective here..i think u r encountering some windmills here, friend..if u know what i mean :)
have a good day

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 April 2016 23:34:39

dont compair hunters with mages or locks or any other class it doesnt have any sense

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
14 April 2016 00:20:21

where did you ever see me compare????
i said why ppl dont ever look into that.
and thought of one more, something probably in retri pala bug range..the prot warrs dmg, that shit literally feels like too much

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
14 April 2016 13:17:50

Netrakan: I confirm, no issue on horde dummies, the problem is only on ally dummies (i retest and have same conclusions).

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
14 April 2016 14:14:19

Hanterika: "Where did you ever see me compare????" --- "while mages taking 1/3 hp of with a root," --- "something probably in retri pala bug range..the prot warrs dmg (...)"
Be stupid somewhere else.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
14 April 2016 18:36:58

Netrakan... which dummys did u used for this testing? ogrimmar and SW ones are broken(lower % armor) retest on garrisson or ashran! tell me if them theres diferences!

post your results and i will post mines straigth from retail so u can see that the damage diference atm its minimal (damage by spells)
theres even one skill wich is actualy doing lower damage

Going to continue watching this treath and fowarding revelant info to the spells dev!

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
14 April 2016 18:42:51

Physical Damage skills will have their damage reduced by the target's armor (.6507 modifier when calculating damage done by a level 100 player against a level 103 raid boss)

Same applys to dummys ( All SV skills are magical so they ignore this factor)

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
14 April 2016 22:29:29

Kronyx&Tarkh those tests were made on ashran dummies, also he didn't even apply the dmg reduction (of the dummy) in the formula sooo....
:DD

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
15 April 2016 16:43:06

Gonna leave this website here so u guys have some fun reading tru all that and have some fun doing more testing!
I trully appreciate

http://www.thrillofthewild.com/2014/10/hunter-stat-conversions-for-warlords-of.html

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
17 April 2016 19:41:54

Please fix, this bug damage impossible to heal on an arena.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
17 April 2016 22:22:34

" straigth from retail so u can see that the damage diference atm its minimal" Are you blind ? oh and learn to dispel sv hunters :P

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
18 April 2016 00:14:20

onken damage spell wise is similar (naked)

as i said above its not the formulas its the stats conversions such as mastery from what i have noticed!

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
18 April 2016 00:34:45

hey brother, is there same website but for warriors? :) from your previous comment

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
18 April 2016 00:40:21

I already said dmg is similar when no gear is on weeks ago, but no one reads....

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
18 April 2016 03:23:53

Oh, okay so the dev can reply to this shit, but you can't respond to the fact that the gear balancing on this server is absolutely fucked. Nice one dev, really fucking pro shit.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
19 April 2016 15:04:03

Okay, i made a PTR hunter on retail with full s2 BiS gear full versa ilvl 701 cuz i have 1 item 710ilvl too. Here is the test of explosive shot, serpent sting and black arrow dmg which do more dmg on ofi because the ilvl is bigger ofc. My guess dmg is FS should be lower just a little bit but I don't have time atm to do calculations. http://imgur.com/a/o2ANa

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
25 April 2016 21:07:58

up

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
29 April 2016 14:51:02

need to fix that

Littlekath
[Hunter][Survival] Damage
29 April 2016 14:56:27

Onken you re a noob, all what sv hunter do is push Q and E all time and spam 123, its so f. easy to play that class n his dmg on firestorm its higher than in retail, i seen some vid...

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
1 May 2016 17:25:13

Yea I am a noob ok :P you're pro! Never said the dmg is not higher. Naked test dmg is almost the same as it is here. Full s2 in retail is higher than here because of the 30ilvl difference. You've seen videos but I played there. I can do lots of DPS there in arenas too. What's your point?

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
2 May 2016 05:43:19

if you compair with naked chars, the stats are low, so the difference its low, with gear the stars are higher, the differences are higher, can u understand that?

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
2 May 2016 09:39:44

Test on the skull-dummy in one of the capital. Dummy in Ashrane is taken more of normal magik damage.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
2 May 2016 09:44:56

And you are lose http://www.wowhead.com/spell=137017/hotfix-passive in formula

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
11 May 2016 16:10:58

statut changé de report confirmé à en attente d'informations

Littlekath
[Hunter][Survival] Damage
13 May 2016 21:21:45

when its this fcking shit of class going to be nerf? every monday its like 5% stronger, wtf its going on??

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
23 May 2016 21:57:47

stills a high as fck dmg and nobody nerfs it, 8 of 10 arena are sv + disci priest, dont you understand that players leave this server cause of this?

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
23 May 2016 23:27:20

Still crying

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
24 May 2016 17:01:53

you are sv so stfu, a class which only press Q and E and spams 123, a class for retards that even a kid knows how to play it its buged as fck, im sure that u dont even played dual dps in the whole s2, f. u noob.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
25 May 2016 04:15:09

cry cry bro, go play tetris if u cant cc a hunter.

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
25 May 2016 09:33:30

SV hunter is actually the best pve hunter when it should be the worst , just sayin ....

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
25 May 2016 14:40:37

"SV hunter is actually the best pve hunter when it should be the worst , just sayin ...."

R.I.P BM

Littlekath
[Hunter][Survival] Damage
26 May 2016 13:50:42

Thats totally fake, krony&Tarkh stop making hunters unblizzlike, http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#720,real,1 http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#720,max,1 SV its the worst spec of hunter at pve, his dmg in firestorm its 15-20% higher or more than in retail.

Littlekath
[Hunter][Survival] Damage
26 May 2016 13:53:03

I have readed wrong, but well, anyways his dps should be a shit and its not!

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
26 May 2016 17:11:17

Best post ever seen. quick and precise. all GMs need to know is here. Netrakan gave us all. Sv hunters are indeed game-breaking atm.. do smthng

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
27 May 2016 12:26:42

never gonna fix this till GMs and Devs stop playing sv hunters

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
28 May 2016 12:09:14

"I remember you that the bugtracker is only for reporting bugs."
"It isnt for arguing with who reported a bug. If you arent agree with him/her, you can click "unlike" icon or you provee that he/she is wrong with formules and provees about it. Never argue in reports please. Reports are only for getting information to fix bugs. "
"It isnt for insulting Devs or others players."

Please, remember the bugtracker rules and try to keep every report as clean as possible
You can read the rules here: http://us.forum.firestorm-servers.com/index.php?/topic/7946-bugtracker-rulers/#comment-34573

[Hunter][Survival] Damage
16 June 2016 00:08:41

statut changé de en attente d'informations à résolu