Character (name, faction, level...): Backpaddlez, Alliance, 100, Frost Mage
Complete description of your issue: After you cast Frozen Orb as a Frost Mage, it will close your game after like 0.5 sec and come up with an error, saying that World of Warcraft stopped working.
Steps for reproducing the issue:
This issue makes frost mages unplayable.
Plis atiendan este reporte hay muchisima gente en el servidor tirando a otra cercana con este bug, del orbe congelado
AND STILL WAITING GG GREAT WORK
when will they fix this problem? I have been expelled from bg many times
2 weeks later and still not fixed... what are you doing? This is ruining the game for anyone that plays Mage. Give us an update.
Still not fixed..... OVER 3 weeks now and no fix and no update...... Why should people who main frost mage play on your servers anymore when you are simply allowing the entire class to be broken in pvp on a PVP SERVER?
I agree that without the frozen orb, the class is mostly useless.
But in the same time... the damage dealed by the orb were so broken that i can't be upset of this bug^^
A Month now and still no fix... can you guys tell us, honestly, is anyone even working on this? I've played on this server for a while and really enjoy it but I cant play my main class with this bug in arenas or in BGs and its really REALLY frustrating for me and every single mage on the server. DO you have ANY updates about this at all? Its listed as Critical on your server forums?!
Maybe because this bug is not on the server anymore ? I can spam cast the orb, never crashing ^^
Just Q'd 4 skirmishes yesterdauy , entered the skirmishes, cast frozen orb on the enemies... the SECOND it touched them my game crashed... sooooooo they must have JUST fixed that today.
ya... just used it... still broken : /
Por favor reparen el Bug del Orbe de hielo de los magos en el reino de GULDAN!!!
frost orb also doesnt necessarily go all the way to the targeted enemy either. part of why I don't like frost mage
I'm still waiting for you to fix the damn mistake
STILL BROKEN> can you please, please, please, PLEASE, PLEASE FIX THIS PROBLEM, POR FAVOR ARREGLA ESTE PROBLEMA,
S'IL VOUS PLAIT RESOUDRE CE PROBLEME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pls just fix this damm Bug. We got crash everytime out of the BG because of the Ice Mages
Why do they take so long?
PLEASE ITS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE PLAYING WITH THOSE ICEMAGES WHO USE the ORB. .... fix it plsp ls pls pslspl s
1month and 28days.Firestorm Staff doesn't give a shit about WoD nomore
o pior agora é que muitos me culpam por esse erro as vezes os aliança lança orb e derruba todos eu nem uso mais porque sei que cai mais todos querem em acusa vale lembrar muitos de vocês quando estou na bg pedem pra eu lançar orb estou até sendo ameaçado de banimento por conta disso eu fiz vários danates arrumem isso pois os jogadores como eu que paga por itens e outros também merecem respeito obrigado
o pior agora é que muitos me culpam por esse erro as vezes os aliança lança orb e derruba todos eu nem uso mais porque sei que cai mais todos querem me acusa vale lembrar muitos de vocês quando estou na bg pedem pra eu lançar orb estou até sendo ameaçado de banimento por conta disso eu fiz vários danates arrumem isso pois os jogadores como eu que paga por itens e outros também merecem respeito obrigado
january at no fix...someone works here?
still bugged.... can a blue tell us why u cant fix this pls?
seriously can ANYONE working at firestorm tell us what the problem is with fixing this HUGE problem?>
This is like the recommendation list... you give to the workers and they give to the trash :3
The best part is that they done literally the LEAST amount of work possible to make it a non issue without actually trying to fix it, by disabling the use of frozen orb in game. This is basically them saying, "we got sick of all the players crashing peoples games and causing a bunch of forum griping, but we don't really feel like actually taking time to fix it, so we are just gonna pretend like the ability doesn't exist." This is the definition of sweeping a problem under the rug.
Thx at last they disabled it!! Those crashes were annoying!!
ya, its great except for those that play frost mage and still are lacking a major offensive ability and therefore cant push rating or play at a high level with their main characters. So frustrating that this has been a problem this long.
Its pretty sad that firestorm obviously took the time to go into the WoD server database and disable frozen orb, but didn't actually put the effort forth to just fix the problem while they were there. They also won't tell anyone if they are working on it or what the actual problem is. They clearly dontt give a crap about frost mages. It makes you wonder if they did this on purpose because someone at firestorm doesn't like frost mage. Otherwise why wouldn't they have fixed it as opposed to disabling it?
What I and many people wanted was exactly what you just gave, an answer. in many of my posts that is ALL i asked for and it took literally over 2 months to get someone to actually respond, in writing, not some auto message "work in progress" response. All so many wanted was a response, and to write a 2 paragraph response that "lets be honest" probably took you all of 10 min to write and post still will have a more positive impact then ignoring the questions. Yet the impact is that now at least we have some idea of what priority the fix is and whether or not it is simply being ignored. Peoples frustrations, and as a consequence, often their demands will grow when they feel they are being ignored and treated like they aren't important to a company that was more than happy to accept donations from said player.
As for the second point you just made about not really knowing how to play mage if I think i "need" frozen orb to push rating, That makes you look like you actually have never pushed rating in your life with a mage, and couldn't be more wrong.... I wont sit here and pretend like I am some multi rank 1 glad who knows this game backwards and forwards, but i was a 3v3 duelist 2.2+ mage in live and 2.1k+ in 2's and 5's. So as someone who is not a total and complete novice in mage pvp i must say that was the most asinine statement I've ever heard. Frozen orb in any given arena setting can easily account for close to 20-30% of all damage a frost mage does (not to mention the on demand utility of proccing FoF for possible Deep poly chains), and its essential for burst opportunities to land kills and force cds. Go ahead and take slice and dice from rogues or colossus smash from warriors, and see how many of the players trying to push rating aren't in here complaining, and rightfully so.
Of course i would love a fix but more than anything i and a lot of others just wanted an answer, which you gave, so thank you for that. and for working to fix the problem. You're right that its not a spell that a frost mage needs in order to compete on a fun and basic level in pvp, but saying its not needed to try and truly push rating makes you look like you don't have a serious understanding of pvp.
The points you make are all valid except one VERY important factor that people who do not push rating in pvp often miss. All those PvE numbers you stated which make frozen orb look like a minimal damage spell vs... say frost bolt, don't take into a account that in pve you can STAND and cast. Of course a raid frost mage will have huge frostbolt damage as a % of their recount damage compared to frozen orb, because they are standing and casting on an often stagnant pve raid target that is preoccupied with the tank . In pvp, those opportunities are FAAAR less available. Standing and casting is not a luxury that is often afforded in pvp against solid teams with constant cc and interrupts focused directly at the mage, if not just outright damage.... so although casting frostbolts is a huge part of mage pressure in arenas for general damage and burst/kill opportunities, VERY VERY often damage needs to be done on the move while trying to pursue an LoSing target or avoid damage/interupts/cc of the opposing team. Mage instant mobility damage is based around 3 back bone spells which are "frozen" ice lances primarily, and then ice novas and frozen orbs secondarily because of longer cds. Frozen orb is not only hugely important because of its use on the run and passive instant damage that the mage can rely on for solid pressure even while moving, but it also allows for a solid number of FoF procs to help finish off targets that are trying to run/los or trying to chase down the mage to shut down their damage. It is the aggressive, mobile nature of arena pvp that lowers the effectiveness of stagnant casting spells like frost bolt and increase the power of instant damage spells that arent as potent in pve settings (not to mention the need to do as much damage as possible in cc windows to score kills, also HUGE for frozen orb). That is why frozen orb is so important.
As for the "plenty of mages that are doing fine without it" claim... There is not a single mage in 2v2 that is over 2k at the moment, that is a sign that the class is ABSOLUTELY under-performing. I myself have not made a push this season simply because my partner and I already broke 2k on horde and alliance last season and wanted to make a 2.2k push this season, which, without working Frozen orb, would be insanely difficult.
You said it yourself So I will reiterate it, PvE is not PvP and the damage and abilities in 1 area of the game don't have any affect on the other necessarily. I understand that WoD is not a priority and it makes sense, you're right not a lot of people play there and that is what it is. Again I thank you for working to resolve this and for finally answering, but I stick by that the "aggressive" requests you saw could have easily been avoided if someone just took the 30 seconds to actually respond to the forum post with what you said to us before instead of letting people feel ignored. Ill keep checking to see if you have any updates on mage with fingers crossed and enjoy other areas of the game.
The colossus smash and SnD were examples, the point I was making was that classes can still function without spells, but that doesn't make those spells important, if not necessary, to push serious arena rating with.
I Appreciate the honesty, and will keep my fingers crossed that something comes about. I normally wouldn't worry much about problems with a specific server cause I could always give another a try but the sad fact is the only really legitimate firestorm server is firestorms so its sad to see it lost attention from Devs and even more sad to see the server fading. Oh well, thanks again.